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Post by Vampire on Jun 22, 2003 8:49:05 GMT -5
These are the current drivers and constructors championship after the French GP
1. Michael Schumacher 64 pts 2. Kimi Raikkonen 56 3. Ralf Schumacher 53 4. Juan Pablo Montoya 47 5. Rubens Barrichelo 39 = Fernando Alonso 39 7. David Coulthard 29 8. Jarno Trulli 13 9. Mark Webber 12 10. Gincarlo Fisichella 10 = Jenson button 10 12. Heinz Herald Frentzen 7 13. Jaques villeneuve 3 = Christiano Da Matta 3 15. Nick Heidfeld 2 =Olivier Panis 2 17. Ralph Firman
Constructors championship
Ferrari 103 Williams 100 Mclaren 85 Renault 52 Bar 13 Jaguar 12 Jordan 11 Sauber 9 Toyota 5
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Post by Yanden on Jun 26, 2003 20:06:28 GMT -5
Kimi will pass Schumi in the next race. Kimi is Schumi's only threat in this years world championship. And we know that he can beat Schumi.
Now remember what I wrote in the other thread about Schumi being a **&$*%& &%*%*? Well let me clarify my liking for him.
I respect the fact that he is one of the best drivers out there. NOT THE BEST. Reason I say not the best is because he's always raced in top cars. You put Villeneuve in a Ferrari and he's beat schumacher like he did in 97.
I also hate how Schumi takes risks so he can win the championship. Resorting in taking the other driver out. Australian G.P. 95 and Jerez 97. Hehe, remember all those. Otherwise he is a damn great driver. Also that he would only have half of the wins he has today if his teammates didn't give him the victories. He's a wimp who likes to win in expense of his teammate losing. Made me real happy when Michael had to give way and let Eddie Irvine win in Malaysia 1999.
Well that's it.
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Post by Vampire on Jun 27, 2003 16:43:43 GMT -5
nah scumi has this years championship won. The new mclaren just failed the crash tests and needs to be redesigned and may not be ready before the summer testing ban.
But schumi is the greatest driver because he has beaten the best drivers when he had a worse car. It is only the last few years that he has had the best car in the field and now he has shown how dominant he can be with the right equipment.
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Post by Yanden on Jun 27, 2003 19:57:16 GMT -5
Name me the BEST drivers he's beaten? Damon Hill? Yeah he beat Damon by taking him out of the race. Yeah he beat Hakkinen in 2000-2001 cause the Mclaren blew engines more times then a grenade could. But still won races.
Schumi has been in Benetton after jordan in 92-95. 96 he went to ferrari till now. He's always been in a car that finished the championship in the top 3 places. Where hakkinen was in the lotus and did well 91-93. Then Mclaren 93-2001. Michael is the best of todays drivers cause he has the better car. But you still see Kimi beating him even in a lesser car. Michael may be todays best. But he is not THE best.
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Post by Vampire on Jun 30, 2003 12:28:36 GMT -5
Hers one for you Aryton Senna. In 1994 schumacher had beaten him in almost every race before his untimely death. He was the first driver to end the mclarens dominance in 1998 by beating them in a lesser car. Which no other driver did whilst the mclarens were still running. And justify this if he isn't the bestwhat does he have to do to prove himself? he has broken pretty much every record in the book and he still has his doubters. Plus mclaren and williams both want him on their teams. Because he is the best and with him he would bring huge money and sponsorship becasue the worlds best driver who is german in a car with a german engine. Plus when he joined ferrari they were useless. But in one year he had turned them into one of the best teams in the field. And ferrari have only him to thank for their dominance.
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Post by Yanden on Jul 1, 2003 3:12:24 GMT -5
He's a fucken prick and to me and many others he will never prove himself. He would not have broken all these records if Johnny Herbert (benetton 95) Eddie Irvine (Ferrari 96 to 99) Rubens Barrichello 2000 till now hadn't given him so many victories. Nor would he have won all those championships. He sucks in my view for using the give me the win maneuvre.
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Post by Vampire on Jul 1, 2003 12:18:01 GMT -5
Eddie irvine? He was useless! and barrichelo he hasn't exactly been great recently. But herbet i think i have to agree with you there.
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Post by Yanden on Jul 2, 2003 21:39:19 GMT -5
I am not saying Irvine and Barrichello are better then him. Irvine was a fucken loser. What I am saying is that Irvine and Barrichello have given him so many victories its not funny. I mean. F1 should be a sport where the best driver wins not the one who is given a victory. There should be a rule about it. It ruins the race. Though I am fucken overjoyed that Johnny Herbert was able to win a race for Stewart in the 99 European G.P. Which was also the race Minardi showed one of their best performances also kicking Irvine's arse into 6th place. LOL made me hit the roof from joy. LOL
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Post by Vampire on Jul 3, 2003 15:06:56 GMT -5
I think their is a rule about team orders now. Oh and minardi rule i love it when they do well. Also i liked arrows especially when damon nearly won that was a brilliant GP.
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Post by Yanden on Jul 3, 2003 22:24:48 GMT -5
Yeah I was so disappointed when Arrows lost that G.P. So very disappointed. Yeah I love Minardi. Followed them since I started watching F1 back in 87. I've seen their highs and lows. Qualifying in 2nd place. Leading a grand prix. Finishing in 4th places. Can't wait to see them score more points.
Did you know that since Minardi have entered Formula one they have outlived over 40 teams? From 1987 till now they have outlived over 40 teams the last been Arrows. Now that is a massive achievement if you ask me.
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Post by Vampire on Jul 4, 2003 12:49:03 GMT -5
Yeah especially for a team with such low funds. And thank god for bernie ecclestone for sorting out their financial problems. I think their should be more teams like minardi because people always like to see the underdog do well.
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Post by Yanden on Jul 6, 2003 9:55:46 GMT -5
Yeah especially for a team with such low funds. And thank god for bernie ecclestone for sorting out their financial problems. I think their should be more teams like minardi because people always like to see the underdog do well. Yup that's right. And how about the Provisional Pole Position at France? If that was normal rules it would of being Pole position. If only the rules were the old ones.
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Post by Vampire on Jul 6, 2003 19:26:10 GMT -5
Yeah that was brilliant. I jumped for joy minardi finally get some success. Your right it would have been better with the old rules the race would have been great with that formation.
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Post by Yanden on Jul 6, 2003 22:28:26 GMT -5
Hell yeah it would of. Minardi would of finished in the points for sure. Not needing to pass an entire field to do it. Though I remember the days back in 91 when they qualified 2nd, 3rd and in the top 5 regularly. They even led a gp. Really love Minardi. They have the true fighting spirit.
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Post by Vampire on Jul 7, 2003 17:29:03 GMT -5
Its strange i do not know a single person who doesn't like minardi. For such a small team i am surprised theyhave money problems because they have a huge fan base who would all like to see them do well. MINARDI RULE!
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